{"id":5672,"date":"2014-05-10T05:00:21","date_gmt":"2014-05-10T12:00:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/michellejolin.com\/wordpress\/?p=5672"},"modified":"2014-06-19T21:42:52","modified_gmt":"2014-06-20T04:42:52","slug":"cultural-perspectives","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/michellejolin.com\/?p=5672","title":{"rendered":"College means dating, right? Well&#8230;kind of&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>When I was in college, I spent a lot of time with a group of Saudis. The ones I mentioned in a post a few days ago. I hung  out with them after class, ate dinner with them nearly every night, drank with them, danced with them, fucked some of them. <\/p>\n<p>Their family had been sending kids to school in Eugene for years, so they owned a house on the golf course near the Oakway mall. It was a sort of second home for most of the time I was in college. It was one of the most unusual relationships I have ever had with a group of people. <\/p>\n<p>Cultural differences abounded. <\/p>\n<p>None of them were overtly religious, but they all shunned pork for the most part aside from pepperoni. Although that seemed to stem from a bit of willful deceit on the part of one of their American girlfriends. <\/p>\n<p>Almost all of them drank alcohol. None of them prayed on a regular basis. <\/p>\n<p>None of them were sexually chaste. <\/p>\n<p>They adored their baby cousins and nieces.<br \/>\nI was banned from the house when their mothers and sisters visited although they did arrange to introduce me when I ran into them &#8220;accidentally&#8221; at the mall. <\/p>\n<p>Their fathers all had multiple wives and the family relationships were complicated and close. I never quite figured out how some of them were related. Some of them were both half-brothers and cousins. <\/p>\n<p>Their family was wealthy-they owned one of the only dairy companies in Saudi Arabia. They were all well traveled, but somehow unsophisticated. They were a really nice group of guys, and all about my age.<\/p>\n<p>They all knew a lot of people our age or younger who had died. Car crashes out in the desert, mostly. A lot of stories about speeding. A lot of stories about smuggling booze from Bahrain. Leukemia. I was still in my teens, and only knew one or two people who had died.  They all had multiple close friends, brothers, cousins who had died. <\/p>\n<p>Like everyone, all of them who met my Mom thought she was wonderful. The main test for anyone I know. <\/p>\n<p>Did any of this matter? Not really. <\/p>\n<p>It would be hard for me to define the relationship I had with these young men. Sometimes I think I was sort of a mascot. The eccentric American girl. I was the only girl &#8220;like me&#8221; who was ever around. Like me&#8230;weird. Not well dressed. Not chatty. Prone to either silence or saying odd things at inopportune moments. A lot of the time I would be the only girl around, unless there was a party. <\/p>\n<p>A few of them had regular girlfriends, so they&#8217;d be around on weekends. I didn&#8217;t really have a defined relationship with any one of them in particular, but did fuck several of them on a regular basis. It was more of a friendly relationship. <\/p>\n<p>If there was a big party at the house, which there often would be, there might be 20 men sleeping on the cushions on the living room floor. Sometimes I would sleep on the floor too,  if I didn&#8217;t either sleep with one of the guys or go home. No one ever bothered me. I always felt very safe there, unlike a lot of other more &#8220;normal&#8221; dating type situations. <\/p>\n<p>We didn&#8217;t ever go out individually. We went out as a group or we hung out at the house.  Sometimes another group would have a party or dinner and we&#8217;d all go to that. There was almost always a party at the Hilton on Friday or Saturday night. <\/p>\n<p>I did go out with a lot of other guys during those years, but these were the ones I spent most of my time with. I don&#8217;t think I actually dated any Americans until I was single in my thirties. No Americans ever asked me out. I didn&#8217;t notice it at the time. <\/p>\n<p>If I did have a date, it wasn&#8217;t uncommon for me to stop by the house and have dinner first. Or just hang out for a while. Or even go there after the date, especially if it didn&#8217;t go well. Or if I didn&#8217;t feel like driving all the way back home. <\/p>\n<p>These guys  were all very sweet to me, except (somewhat ironically) the one who introduced me to them all in the first place. He was a cousin or something. We ended up having a big fight when he told me to get up and answer the door in the middle of the night. I refused, and he pushed me out of bed. He was being a prick, so I dumped the remnants of his drink on him and left. He told me never to come back. <\/p>\n<p>A couple of days later, one of the cousins, the ones who owned the house, called to check on me. I told him that I&#8217;d been kicked out, and he laughed and said they all missed me and I should come back and have dinner. So I did. The other guy wasn&#8217;t around so much any more. <\/p>\n<p>He tried, and failed, to get me kicked out of the other  local Arab social gatherings, but for whatever reason the guys liked me. Even the ones I wasn&#8217;t sleeping with. I wasn&#8217;t sleeping with most of them. <\/p>\n<p>I kind of felt like the resident weirdo. Maybe I was like their village idiot, only smart. <\/p>\n<p>Maybe they just liked that I didn&#8217;t want anything from them. Because of the money, they must have gotten a lot of girls wanting money, drugs, cars. Because I didn&#8217;t care about anything, I was low maintenance. <\/p>\n<p>I lost touch with them when I went to France. I suppose they are all married with dozens of wives and children. The family still owns the house in Eugene. Their sons probably live there now. <\/p>\n<p>It was really the only sort of relationship I was at all equipped for emotionally at the time, so in that respect it was probably positive. We all sort of took care of each other. <\/p>\n<p>A lot of them didn&#8217;t speak English very well, so there wasn&#8217;t a lot of pressure on me to talk. They just let me be. Somehow, even though I didn&#8217;t speak Arabic I could pick up what they were talking about. I&#8217;d speak English, they&#8217;d speak Arabic.  Sometimes they&#8217;d talk about me just to see if I noticed. I&#8217;d just laugh at them. If other people talked about me, they&#8217;d make them stop and tell them I spoke Arabic. <\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d lay on the living room floor and do homework, or read. Watch soccer with one of the guys. One of them made great drinks, so I&#8217;d sit at the bar and talk to him all night. <\/p>\n<p>Were they just treating me like a living doll? A sexual convenience? Possibly, but that isn&#8217;t how it felt. There were definitely plenty of other guys I saw during that same time who did act like I was just a sex toy.  It didn&#8217;t bother me. Nothing bothered me much then. <\/p>\n<p>One of their uncles met me on a trip to LA and wanted to buy me an apartment in Geneva. He said I was pretty and smart, and he liked that I spoke several languages. He thought I was funny. He was married, but wanted to have someone around when he travelled to Europe on business several times a year.  When he asked me about it, I wondered aloud if he realized how socially awkward I was. He said he didn&#8217;t need someone to throw parties or entertain, just someone to talk to. I would be more than welcome to go to parties with him when I wanted to, but it wasn&#8217;t part of the deal. <\/p>\n<p>Given how little I cared about anything at that point in my life, it surprises me in retrospect that I didn&#8217;t just tell him I didn&#8217;t want the apartment but He could fly me to Geneva any time. If he&#8217;d been my age, maybe I would have. <\/p>\n<p>I wonder how it would have worked out?<\/p>\n<p>What would life as a mistress have done to me or for me?<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s weird for me to write about this whole time period. It feels floaty and disconnected. It was a lot of fun in some ways, but it was..a floaty and disconnected time for me. 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I hung out with them after class, ate dinner with them nearly every night, drank with them, danced with them, fucked some of them. Their family had been &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/michellejolin.com\/?p=5672\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">College means dating, right? 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